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Lovefest

07-25-2010, 02:44 PM

It is almost that time. The love Festival is coming and I hope that you all are ready!!!! This event will blow your mind and ears as we bring in the full set up from Paradigm Sound. We are FULLY PERMITTED and ready to blow the roof off this place... This event is not to be missed.......

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Klaas - http://www.myspace.com/klaasmusic
Donald Glaude - http://www.myspace.com/donaldglaude
Christopher Lawrence - http://www.myspace.com/djchristopherlawrence
Nero - http://www.myspace.com/nerouk
REZA - http://www.myspace.com/djrezamusic
Michael Myers - http://www.myspace.com/djmichaelmyers
Manufactured Superstars - http://www.myspace.com/manufacturedsuperstars

SOUND  Live Sound Experience Featuring... [I]PARADIGM - TURBOSOUND -- ALL 18 subs and ALL 10 tops, 5 way active, and crystal clear

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 Stage and production by Greater Than ENT. The production of this event will be something never seen before by Colorado. What your eyes see your mind believes and we promise you that you will not believe your eyes. Come and experience music as you never have before where you will become part of the show....

 

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milo

07-25-2010, 03:09 PM

Another new thread on this?

Lovefest

07-26-2010, 12:27 AM

when we have fun ,...... you have fun.... AND YOU WILL HAVE FUNN for sure.... :)

Orangepeel

07-26-2010, 09:14 AM

who needs board etiquette when you got Love?!

:)

Opm

FunkyFresh

07-26-2010, 12:10 PM

bassfrq

07-26-2010, 12:28 PM

Interesting...

cybr

07-26-2010, 12:37 PM

I don't think a post like that is very nice to be putting in another promoter's thread bud... I mean, sure, if you want to start a thread about it... but just posting in another promoter's thread about your concerns with a venue is pathetic.

ThatSubaruGuy

07-26-2010, 12:49 PM

What safety concerns? Is there some sort of secret dialogue going on between promoters that the rest of us haven't heard about? Considering the recent events in Germany, if there is a safety issue then that shit needs to be made public, both for the safety of event-goers and the future of our scene. We're already on thin ice here people...

Disciple13

07-26-2010, 12:57 PM

local lineup is better than the national one imo

Boda

07-26-2010, 01:01 PM

don't eat the brown acid

maki

07-26-2010, 01:53 PM

The production of this event will be something never seen before by Colorado. What your eyes see your mind believes and we promise you that you will not believe your eyes. Come and experience music as you never have before where you will become part of the show....

How is this production something we've never seen before? And if my mind does not beleive my eyes, how does my mind believe what my eyes see? How do I become a part of the show. Either I dont get it or maybe I've heard all the hype before for too many years.

JstnRyan

07-26-2010, 02:46 PM

Due to the recent serious safety concerns at the Phil Long Expo Events Center, FunkyFresh Entertainment is no longer able to support or endorse them as a venue. Nor are we able to support or endorse this event. We look forward to the conclusion of any/all investigations and public safety returning to a level we can feel comfortable in again.

Part of me is tempted to simply say, "nobody asked you," but the more rational side of me is curious what you're talking about. Was there an incident at the last event at this venue that we don't know about?

As far as I'm concerned, Pureform has a very good record of events over a very long period of time. In all my time of working with them (between Sven and I, I think LB1 has participated in every Pureform party in Colorado) I've never known of any serious safety problems at any of their events.

How is this production something we've never seen before? And if my mind does not beleive my eyes, how does my mind believe what my eyes see? How do I become a part of the show. Either I dont get it or maybe I've heard all the hype before for too many years.

This is pretty standard P.A. marketing. Sometimes it amounts to some really cool stuff, and sometimes it doesn't work out so well. P.A. is one of only two groups I've ever worked with that actually play a fully active role in the multimedia experience of the event.

Without discounting any of the work other promoters put into their events, it's cool to work with the Pureform folks because they don't just hire out some lights, sound, and DJs and throw together a party. When assembling a Pureform show there's a lot more attempt at coordination between all of the elements than most other shows, and a much larger emphasis on things that are normally passed over, like visual decoration, for instance. Alan's effects shop, for example, is strong evidence that there's more to a Pureform show than simply throwing together a venue, a sound system, and some music.

Obviously budget is a huge factor, and sometimes things just don't work out as planned, but when things pan out you're going to see some really creative ideas executed that you won't commonly see at other shows like large-scale video mapping, interactive sculpture, immersive decor, and a general coordination between sound, light, video, and space.

bassfrq

07-26-2010, 03:20 PM

"interactive sculpture"

Tell me more...

Orangepeel

07-26-2010, 03:34 PM

don't eat the brown acid

Orange promises not to eat the brown acid

Opm

cybr

07-26-2010, 04:12 PM

... but the orange acid... that's a whole different experience.

JstnRyan

07-26-2010, 04:16 PM

"interactive sculpture"

Tell me more...

I'm not promising anything to be or not be at Love Festival, but these are examples of creative things that have been discussed/tried/executed at events in the past.

cybr

07-26-2010, 04:19 PM

Yep, I've seen some cool stuff at Pureform parties that definitely sets them apart from the rest of the promoter crowd. Much respect.

ThatSubaruGuy

07-26-2010, 04:41 PM

Indeed, suppose I should add that I've had nothing but stellar experiences at every PA show I've ever been to. I didn't mean any disrespect with my post, I just think if there is a safety issue it would definitely be best to address it ASAP considering recent events throughout our scene.

Orangepeel

07-26-2010, 04:41 PM

... but the orange acid... that's a whole different experience.

citric acid is the best kind;)

Opm

cybr

07-26-2010, 04:49 PM

def. agree... esp w/ vodka.

Lovefest

07-30-2010, 03:12 PM

I hope that everyone is ready for this event... we have put many hours into the fine tuning of this show in order to make sure that all of you walk away looking forward to our next event. It is time once again.... much love and respect always.

Orangepeel

08-01-2010, 02:02 PM

http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/nero-extend-their-empire-to-america/

JeremyC

08-01-2010, 02:18 PM

saw a flyer for this, it said 1 stage...is that true? 45 minutes sets for everyone?

plurmovie

08-01-2010, 06:27 PM

Whats this about snake? That guy scares me.

Orangepeel

08-02-2010, 03:06 AM

http://www.blog.303magazine.com/?p=6380

Mz2Phresh

08-04-2010, 11:31 AM

anyone have timeslots or event info for artists?
i need asap to give to my guys
cant seem to find it out or get the info
help plrease

bassfrq

08-04-2010, 11:54 AM

I will be doing the video at this event, hope to see many of you out!

Going to be a damn good time!

Lovefest

08-05-2010, 02:57 AM

Hell yeah... we cant wait as well... going to be off the hook !!!

cfralasquez

08-05-2010, 03:33 AM

Hey Lovefest,
nobody gives a flying fart about your inane PR. all we care about is what FunkyFresh said.

refute or die. kthx

plurmovie

08-05-2010, 08:18 AM

FunkyFresh please elaborate! I need to know if i should be outside this event with cameras and non disclosure contacts.

maki

08-05-2010, 02:30 PM

It will be interesting to see how much press this gets since the CA Trample(LOVE) Fest.

Lovefest

08-05-2010, 03:19 PM

plurmovie

08-05-2010, 03:35 PM

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/17/local/la-me-rave-coliseum-20100717 ]Coliseum imposes conditions on three scheduled raves - Los Angeles Times

"No new raves will be allowed at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and Sports Arena in the near future, but events already scheduled for Aug. 21, Oct. 23 and New Year's Eve will be permitted to go forward with stricter oversight, including a ban on minors, commissioners said Friday.

In front of a packed meeting room, members of the Los Angeles Coliseum Commission told rave producers that the three upcoming events offered them one last chance to clean up their operations. The safety of the two-day dance parties came under question with a 15-year-old girl's death June 29 from a suspected overdose after she attended the Electric Daisy Carnival at the Coliseum, which had an age limit of 16.

"You're on probation," Coliseum Commissioner David Israel told Pasquale Rotella, founder of Insomniac Events, which produced the Electric Daisy Carnival. "The question is whether you wind up gone or back in society."

The commission — the joint state, county and city panel that oversees the venue and whose meetings rarely draw more than a handful of people — also ordered that producers of the three upcoming raves enforce a strict age limit of 18 by checking identification, hire a team of emergency room doctors to work onsite and warn rave-goers about the dangers of the illegal drug Ecstasy, which some rave attendees see as an integral part of the experience.

County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky said he would have liked to immediately postpone all future raves but has been told by the Coliseum's lawyers that the venue is contractually bound to host them.

Yaroslavsky challenged Rotella and other rave producers to move the culture of the events away from celebrating Ecstasy, the stimulant and hallucinogen suspected of causing 15-year-old Sasha Rodriguez's death.

"You know you've got an Ecstasy and other drug problems at these concerts..... You have influence over what your acts are saying. Can't you put your thinking cap on and create a new dynamic in the arena?" Yaroslavsky asked. "Do something proactive … that keeps your patrons alive."

Rotella declined to respond. His lawyer, Simon Rust Lamb, said Rotella's company has hired a consulting firm to review its safety and security protocols.

Los Angeles Councilman Bernard C. Parks defended the events, saying he believes that only about 5% of attendees engage in illegal acts.

"There are no perfect events," he said. "I don't think we should leave here thinking that we will have things in the future with no incidents."

Rotella subsequently read a statement that said Insomniac's fans "deserve only the best, whether it be the world-class artists we bring to Los Angeles or the industry-leading security measures we have implemented to make sure they safely enjoy themselves."

Raves bring in significant revenue for the Coliseum and Sports Arena.

Some members of the audience applauded the decision to give raves another chance.

Tess Fish, 20, a UC Davis student back in Los Angeles for the summer, called these raves "our generation's Woodstock."

A ban "would be really sad. It would be a huge impact to the SoCal raver scene," Fish said.

On the other side, Aisha Armer, 19, of Laguna Niguel said the Coliseum needs a ban to protect young people.

Armer said she attended the Electric Daisy Carnival in 2009 and took Ecstasy because all of her friends were.

She later had a massive convulsion and wound up at Good Samaritan Hospital, where she suffered multiple organ failure, had four strokes and fell into a two-month coma, said her mother, Debbie Macaluso.

Only recently did Armer relearn how to walk and talk.

"Everyone knows you take drugs at this rave," Armer said, her slowed speech showing the effects of the strokes. "I want to prevent this from happening to other people. As long as these go on, people are going to get hurt."
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ShauniQua

08-05-2010, 03:35 PM

JstnRyan

08-05-2010, 03:40 PM

Whats this about snake? That guy scares me.

Seriously?! You again?

Do you really have nothing better to do?

plurmovie

08-05-2010, 03:58 PM

"A Closer Look: How Ecstasy harms
The drug, popular at raves, can make users feel sharp. But that doesn't make it safe.

Los Angeles is earning a reputation as a hotbed of raves — those dance parties that sometimes last all night and feature pulsing electronic music, light shows and recreational drugs. In addition to drawing tens of thousands of young people to events, the city's raves have attracted the notice of local and federal public health officials because of the number of emergency room visits that result.

During a two-day event last month at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum with an estimated 185,000 participants, some 120 people were taken to local hospitals, many with symptoms of drug intoxication. A 15-year-old girl died with the drug Ecstasy, also called MDMA, in her system.

Last New Year's Eve, a Los Angeles Sports Arena rave party with about 45,000 participants resulted in numerous emergency room visits. An investigation by the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health identified 18 of those visits that involved MDMA use, according to a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report published on June 11. A 24-year-old man died at home the next day from multiple drug intoxication, including Ecstasy.

It's not easy to put numbers on how often Ecstasy causes death — sometimes other drugs are involved, sometimes drug testing isn't done. A study in England, published in the journal Neuropsychobiology in January, studied 605 deaths involving MDMA in the years 1997 to 2007 and estimated that there were 1.67 deaths per 100,000 16- to 24-year-old users.

An estimated 555,000 Americans older than 12 have used Ecstasy in the last month, according to data from the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "My perception is that there was a lot of interest in Ecstasy 15 to 20 years ago and a lot of information and education campaigns," says Jane Maxwell, a drug abuse researcher at the University of Texas School of Social Work in Austin. Yet though illegal, Ecstasy has not gone away, she says; a new generation of young people now is using it. She doesn't see the education campaigns keeping up.

Here's a closer look at the drug Ecstasy.

What is Ecstasy?

Ecstasy is the street name for 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), a synthetic amphetamine that's been around for nearly 100 years. Studies in humans in the late 1970s showed that MDMA acted like an amphetamine-like stimulant and a mescaline-like hallucinogenic drug rolled into one. The drug soon became popular as a recreational drug.

Thirty years ago, some psychotherapists also were using the drug as an adjunct to therapy. They found the drug facilitated talking about difficult issues. Current studies approved by the Food and Drug Administration are testing the drug in combination with psychotherapy to treat post-traumatic stress syndrome.

What does Ecstasy do?

People take the drug to feel mentally stimulated, physically energetic, emotionally positive and to experience a level of enhanced sensory perception. "It seems to have a rather unique capacity for inducing states of empathy — powerful empathogenic experiences, where people feel very bonded," says Dr. Charles Grob, a psychiatrist at Harbor- UCLA Medical Center, who conducted early exploratory tests of the drug in human subjects in the 1990s. "People often have very positive experiences."

However, the drug can also cause nausea, chills and sweating, muscle cramping and anxiety. Physiologically, MDMA increases heart rate and blood pressure and can interfere with the body's hydration level and salt balance. In rare cases, a person on Ecstasy can experience extremely high body temperatures, which can be life-threatening.

Taking a drug at a rave involves additional risk because the quality control of tablets is unknowable. Sometime MDMA is combined with other drugs — rather benign ones, such as caffeine or antihistamines, or potentially dangerous ones, such as methamphetamine or the anesthetic ketamine. Also, the buyer cannot know how much MDMA is in a tablet.

What does Ecstasy intoxication look like?

There's no fail-safe way to know if someone's high on MDMA without testing body fluids. "Most people are very calm, quite affable," Grob says. "It's a very, very small minority who, for one reason or another, have a very adverse reaction. Then you know something's going on because they're in medical crisis."

People may get very anxious, or have chest pain or difficulty breathing. Motor coordination may be impaired, or a user may seize or pass out.

How does one die from Ecstasy?

In rare cases, MDMA can cause increases in body temperature so severe it can kill. Scientists don't know precisely why this happens or why some people are susceptible, but the rave setting is a likely contributor, Grob says. Vigorous exercise (such as dancing), hot and poorly ventilated spaces (such as dance halls) and not drinking enough fluids can cause a person's temperature to spike to 105 degrees or more. When that happens, the blood thickens, organs can fail and seizures can occur, all of which can lead to death.

Grob says this condition, known as malignant hyperthermia, is the most common cause of death with MDMA. Other causes, even more rare, are water intoxication and cardiac events.

Water intoxication results from drinking too much fluid; it can lead to dangerously low levels of sodium in the blood. This is ironic, because if kids have heard about the high temperature problem, they may overcompensate by drinking copious amounts of water.

Cardiac arrhythmias or heart attacks can occur with the drug. The MDMA-triggered increase in heart rate and blood pressure can be particularly dangerous if a person has an underlying condition — perhaps unrecognized — with the heart or blood vessels.

Can Ecstasy be taken safely?

Obviously, some people believe that Ecstasy can be used safely — namely, those mental health practitioners who have lobbied to use the drug in their practices. However, the doctor's office is a controlled setting, the medication is a known and uncontaminated amount of drug, and patients can be monitored for adverse effects.

The biggest problem with taking Ecstasy recreationally is that the user can't be sure what's in the pill. A study published in the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence in 2006 reported on the content of 1,214 tablets sold as Ecstasy between 1999 and 2005. Only 39% of the tablets contained just MDMA as an active ingredient, 15% were mixtures of MDMA and other substances, and 46% had no MDMA at all.

"There are all these other types of crazy drugs," says study author Emily Tanner-Smith, a sociologist at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. "Some of them are over-the-counter drugs used as filler, but a lot of them are potentially problematic drugs" — such as the cough medicine dextromethorphan, other amphetamines and even PCP. "People have no idea what they're getting," Tanner-Smith says.

Some club-drug websites provide information about Ecstasy use, and one — ecstasydata.org — runs a testing service. People can send in pills for content analysis. The site also has a table of pills, with pictures and common street names, plus ingredients. These sites are sometimes accused of being pro drug — taking an approach that's more "If you're going to do drugs, here's what you need to know" than "Just say no" — but they do provide a service to a new generation. "I think it's a good information site," Maxwell says. "

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1806]EcstasyData.org: Test Details : Result #1806 - Obama
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FunkyFresh

08-05-2010, 04:55 PM

The Colorado I use to know never had so many haters and everyone was just down and supported everyone. Sorry to see this in our scene here.

Haters? I assume you are speaking about the trash that was dragged here from L.A. Reza has more haters than any promoter I've ever met. These are serious people, with serious problems.

If you're referring to me, I'd be more than happy to respond to that accusation. I've taken the high road, as always. The only thing I said, was my company doesn't not support this show. I stand by that.

clicking

08-05-2010, 04:57 PM

FingerBang

08-05-2010, 06:21 PM

Is this a one stage event?

Lovefest

08-06-2010, 05:34 AM

Thank you to all you that support the event and sorry for those of you that dont. Much respect to all no matter what. Everyone is welcome and come and have a great time and show the love...

plurmovie

08-06-2010, 05:49 AM

http://www.csindy.com/colorado/love-hurts/Content?oid=1800715
Love hurts
Recent deaths put an unhappy face on some of the world's biggest dance music festivals
by Bill Forman:

'Where were you in '92?" asks hitmaker M.I.A. in her song "XR2."

The artist herself was in London, where her family lived in exile due to political turmoil in her native Sri Lanka. And her song reflects the rave culture in which M.I.A. came of age, complete with references to drum machines, energy drinks and, of course, Ecstasy.

For decades now, Ecstasy use has been the focus of media reports characterizing raves and contemporary dance music festivals as potentially dangerous. That theme found its way into plenty of headlines again following a recent wave of events that renewed old suspicions and stereotypes.

Currently, a number of California officials are calling for bans on raves in public facilities following Ecstasy-related deaths of a 15-year-old girl at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum and a 23-year-old man at San Francisco's Cow Palace. But the biggest media-attention-getter took place in Germany on July 24, when 21 people were trampled to death outside a tunnel at the entrance to the massive Love Parade dance music festival in Duisburg.

By comparison, the Love Festival — an annual touring festival with no connection to Love Parade or the other aforementioned events — will be downright intimate here in Colorado Springs. The Coliseum's two-day Electric Daisy Carnival brought in 185,000 people, while Love Parade reportedly drew 1.4 million (although that figure has been disputed by some connected with the event). Here at the Phil Long Expo Center, Love Fest's Chris Lasoya says he's limiting the event to 5,000.

"I'm going to keep it controlled," says the L.A.-based promoter. "We're not here to get rich, we're just here to do a good event and make sure people are safe and everything gets done right. Plus, the city of Colorado Springs has had issues with promoters in the past just not doing it right, so we're going to make sure we make them happy."

Beating the rap

Lasoya says one obstacle in bringing the Love Festival here was the fallout from last October's DMX show at the Expo Center.

"That show caused me many problems," says Lasoya, who was not involved with the acrimonious hip-hop event. "The people that come to our shows are a totally different demographic. They're happy people, they don't like getting in arguments, they don't riot, you know? And my artists actually show up on time."

Actually, DMX fans didn't riot either, although the rapper himself scuffled with security guards while trying to reach the stage. (The show's promoter and the artist's management each blame the other for the performance not taking place.)

In any event, dance music fans do have a reputation for living up to Lasoya's characterization as "happy people." Of course, the number of revelers who take Ecstasy is anyone's guess, and those who do risk some pretty bad side effects, such as death, from either the drug itself or what it's cut with. But the more typical response is one of euphoria. There's also a somewhat indiscriminate sense of intimacy, as anyone who's stumbled upon a raver blissfully hugging a lamppost can attest.

All of which makes the Love Parade tragedy that much stranger. German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she was "appalled" by the event and promised an "intensive" investigation. The city's mayor has had trash thrown at him, received death threats, and been called upon to resign by members of his own Christian Democrat party. And the event's promoter, who subsequently announced that the 20-year-old festival will not be held again, may face criminal charges for negligent manslaughter.

Fatal attraction

German DJ and remix artist Klaas, who will be performing at the Love Festival here Saturday, was on tour when he first learned about the Love Parade fatalities.

"My sister told me via text-message about the tragedy when I was waking up in my hotel room after a show in France," he says. "I was shocked and remembered my experiences at this event in my early youth. Every year, more than one million people are celebrating this huge party, but it was never nearly as packed as this year. The new venue was by far too small."

According to the German magazine Spiegel, the festival was not authorized to host more than 250,000 attendees, while the head of the Duisburg police union says he was dismissed as a "security fanatic" when he cautioned the city a year ago against holding the festival.

"I still can't understand why they let many times more people enter the venue than it allowed so that 21 people died, caused by panic," says Klaas. "If Love Parade will ever happen again, it is probably not going to have the same spirit because of this catastrophe."

Even so, many within the dance music world feel they're being singled out unfairly.

"If you look at regular concerts," says Lasoya, "you have the same fatalities, you just never hear about it."

While overdoses at rock concerts may not make as many headlines, stampedes do. In Cincinnati, 11 fans were crushed to death due to crowd management failings at a 1979 Who concert. During a Pearl Jam performance 10 years ago, nine concertgoers met the same fate.

Of course, music doesn't even have to be involved in these sort of incidents, as demonstrated by a 2008 holiday stampede of Wal-Mart shoppers that killed one employee.

Lasoya, who's expecting to make the Love Festival an annual event in Colorado, is hopeful that the tragedies in Germany and California won't have a lasting negative impact on other dance music festivals.

"I don't know if they're just picking on this kind of music or this kind of event," he says, "but it might change the way things go."

— bill@csindy.com
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Lovefest

08-06-2010, 06:22 AM

You all have way to much time on your hands.... At the end of the day we will provide an safe and quality event and everyone will have a great time. If you dont want to come then we will understand and it will not change a thing about our production and event we will provide for you. Much love to all the supporters... see you Saturday.

DJ Blindside

08-06-2010, 07:56 AM

:brick:NERO's beats hit hard! Tehy are gonna rock it.

maki

08-06-2010, 02:43 PM

I am not sure what exactly you are talking about.. the trample was at EDC in LA and we have nothing to do with them what so ever. The Colorado I use to know never had so many haters and everyone was just down and supported everyone. Sorry to see this in our scene here.

Forgive me, it was the original rave not the cookie cutter copy in CA/CO.

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EDC
Electric Daisy Carnival ravers nearly get trampled, squished to ... (http://www.theradreport.com/node/8851)

Hope the same does not happen here....

...I still want to know how this venue is considered unsafe. I bet I've partied in worse.

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plurmovie

08-07-2010, 07:23 AM

plur!

WesleyMantooth

08-08-2010, 10:53 AM

Congratulations LoveFest you made the Colorado Springs news way to go High 5!!

http://www.gazette.com/articles/people-102679-police-party.html

Orangepeel

08-08-2010, 11:17 AM

actually pretty surprised they didn't call it a rave...

Peele

MikeRobot

08-08-2010, 12:03 PM

LOL @ a indoor Love Fest. Lets try to re-invent the wheel and think of a party that hasn't been copied already to take place in Denver. Real original. And lets book the same DJz that play every rave, everytime. All ages.

colin

08-08-2010, 01:22 PM

REAL SICK PO-PO PARTY, BRO

hakudoshi

08-08-2010, 02:20 PM

lol @ this comment from the gazette

"what kind of music was played!!!????they meant thugfest,not lovefest right?"

Generally, these events are like the "raves" of past days, playing house, eurotechno, trance and break beats, but not clandestine or "invitation only". Clientele is largely, young, white, middle class, and many instances, gay.

So, no, this is most definitely NOT a "thugfest".

teh_joo

08-08-2010, 02:23 PM

anyone actually go to this??? Did any of the crap snakeboarder talk about actually happen? lolz

Street_Knowledge

08-08-2010, 04:38 PM

anyone actually go to this??? Did any of the crap snakeboarder talk about actually happen? lolz

yeah, i went. none of that crazy shit happened, and it was a pretty good time. Glaude played probably the best set i have ever heard him play in co.

NeoPsyButterfly

08-08-2010, 06:09 PM

yeah, i went. none of that crazy shit happened, and it was a pretty good time. Glaude played probably the best set i have ever heard him play in co.

That's saying a lot. I looooove to see Glaude, the man is so f-ing intense when he plays. I have always enjoyed listening to him. I think one of the best sets I've seen him do was at Vinyl years ago. Glad it was a good time!

teh_joo

08-08-2010, 06:21 PM

yeah, i went. none of that crazy shit happened, and it was a pretty good time. Glaude played probably the best set i have ever heard him play in co.

How was the sound setup? One stage for realz?

clicking

08-08-2010, 06:22 PM

yeah, i went. none of that crazy shit happened, and it was a pretty good time. Glaude played probably the best set i have ever heard him play in co.

Ya stage setup was cool. Sound was really loud and clear. We could still hear it when we got back to our house which isn't that far but still. There were enough people but not a huge turnout. smoking area was chill. There was a ton of security and some cops chilling around but it seems like only a few people got busted. It seemed like they were just trying to be overly careful, probably due to pressure by the city or community or whatever.

Nero's set started really well but once he got away from the dubstep stuff it went downhill. I was expecting at least some dnb from him but never happened. Glaude was cool, Christopher Lawrence was really cool. I know he's at beta like all time, might have to check him out next time hes around. He is really pushing that classic trance sound, way less cheezy that the trance I usually hear now a days.

I'm sure you will see a bigger turnout next year now that everyone knows its for real. This lineup rivals the CO edc line-up for best artist selection as far as I'm concerned.

It really shows that these California based promoters are far more tuned into what is really going on in the electronic scene and know how to keep things fresh and new. The lineups for most of the others raves don't even compare. From a dnb perspective we're talking about the difference between picking dieselboy who is a great pioneer type but just isn't really making a mark on the scene now a days compared to someone like DirtyPhonics or Nero who are up and coming producers pumping out that new sound.

It was really great to see someone like a Nero get to play the main stage at a party, I mean up until Global this year dubstep was not even recognized at big triad raves or otherwise. And to have them on the main stage is even more epic.

I hope to see more of this kind of party, it reminds me of the Dykstra's partys where he was trying to diversify the talent selection and get a good mixture of music and people.

clicking

08-08-2010, 06:23 PM

How was the sound setup? One stage for realz?

There was a tiny 2nd stage on the side. But it was setup so the whole main room was one giant openness.

teh_joo

08-08-2010, 06:31 PM

pics??

JstnRyan

08-08-2010, 06:42 PM

Did any of the crap snakeboarder talk about actually happen?

none of that crazy shit happened,

Awesome. Now can we please preemptively ban him before the next Insomniac partnership party?

plurmovie

08-08-2010, 07:12 PM

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/100218964.html
click video

more fallout to fallow.... stay tuned!!!!

JstnRyan

08-08-2010, 10:22 PM

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/100218964.html
click video

more fallout to fallow.... stay tuned!!!!

1. "follow"

2. 22 arrests is significant, but really nothing new. Nobody died; nobody was rushed to the hospital. Is that all you've got?

3. Since it looks like you aren't going to give up, why don't you tell us what your real motivations are? Maybe if you level with us, and stop being such a little bitch about your complaining, you might convince some of us that you have a valid purpose.

Digga

08-09-2010, 12:24 AM

Awesome. Now can we please preemptively ban him before the next Insomniac partnership party?

I think its Go Ventures he has a problem with.

JstnRyan

08-09-2010, 02:05 AM

I think its Go Ventures he has a problem with.

Right. I must have been having a 'duh' moment.

plurmovie

08-09-2010, 05:26 AM

1. "follow"

2. 22 arrests is significant, but really nothing new. Nobody died; nobody was rushed to the hospital. Is that all you've got?

3. Since it looks like you aren't going to give up, why don't you tell us what your real motivations are? Maybe if you level with us, and stop being such a little bitch about your complaining, you might convince some of us that you have a valid purpose.

Im doing noting but making a movie about the media and anti drug group's impact on raves. Not looking too good for you guys right now. Crazy fucker from anti drug group is trying to use last weekends event to even shut down mmj . This group has over 6 million dollars of tax payer money for layers and lobbyists. I tried to warn you.

JstnRyan

08-09-2010, 06:04 AM

Im doing noting but making a movie about the media and anti drug group's impact on raves. Not looking too good for you guys right now. Crazy fucker from anti drug group is trying to uses last weekends event to even shut down mmj . This group has over 6 million dollars of tax payer money for layers and lobbyists. I tried to warn you.

If that's true, then keep the news snippets and empty threats to yourself.

The "rave scene" has hardly anything (dare I say 'nothing'?) to do with medical marijuana. Pot smokers come from all walks of life; they don't all listen to techno. Ecstasy is only related because it is this musical movement's vice of choice, just as every other major musical movement in this country has had an associated preferred drug. Drugs and music are inseparable; get over it.

This scene, local to Colorado at least, has seen all this before, and has had no problem pushing through. For example, in 2001 (or thereabout) a young girl made the mistake of chasing her pill with way too much water (she wasn't even at a rave at the time). She drown herself in the fear that a pill could kill her. HOW IRONIC! The media was all over it then, too. You know what happened? Raves took a step back, dusted their shoulders off, and adjusted a bit. Parties (the massives, at least) here are bigger today than they have ever been.

The small events didn't leave either. Hell, we've got some dudes who leased a warehouse and throw illegal parties practically every other week without much bother.

The point is, make your little movie. Let us know when it's done; I'm sure some of us might be interested in watching it. In the mean time, keep the bullshit off our message board. Some of us do this for a living, and don't like to be insulted by trite shit, the likes of which you've been trying to peddle.

Cheers.

plurmovie

08-09-2010, 07:19 AM

Last time I checked they have shutdown all but a few events in LA after EDC.

go to: .55 political agencies?
http://www.ktla.com/videobeta/212036c2-b75c-4dee-ad21-47f34ea2ec44/News/KTLA-Rave-Death-Casts-A-Sour-Note-On-Similar-Events-Dave-Mecham-Reports

Council women member of group?
http://egpnews.com/?p=19929

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H66Jdec_nLs
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Erik Mitchell

08-09-2010, 08:04 AM

Cali ≠ CO

alexander

08-09-2010, 08:19 AM

Is there a completely empty suggestion going on here about how EDM is going to "shut down" MMJ in Colorado?? That is, without a doubt, one of the dumbest fucking things I've seen attached in this thread.

As Justin said, they are COMPLETELY unrelated...What's the situation here? Why is there so much controversy? So a party went on and some people got in trouble...this happens with EVERY GENRE OF MUSIC AT JUST ABOUT EVERY SHOW EVER.

And who are you Plurmovie, coming on this board and spouting off news and info about drug/facts that most of us have been aware of for over 2 decades? What's the point? What's the motivation? Your not teaching anything here.

alexander

08-09-2010, 08:20 AM

Cali ≠ CO

No doubt...Not even close.

plurmovie

08-09-2010, 08:38 AM

Im not the crazy anti drug people.

alexander

08-09-2010, 08:42 AM

Then leave it alone.

Just Ben

08-09-2010, 08:43 AM

Alexander for President 2012

Brandon

08-09-2010, 08:44 AM

Cali ≠ CO
Exactly. CA is a shithole and their events are advertised to the general drug-user community, rather than other markets, where the 'raver' community is targeted.
The CA promoters are greedy fucks and their attempts to throw events outside CA are proof that the days of the large rave scene are in the past; it's just a few concert promoters, throwing sub-par events. They're doing events in Austin and Dallas too and have equally negative response from the older community members... but the younginz, who don't know any better, actually attend their events.

Since people need a reminder every few years: QUALITY OVER QUANTITY.

alexander

08-09-2010, 09:00 AM

Alexander for President 2012

Justin Ryan would be my running mate, but I'm scheduled to head out on the Mothership when it returns that year.

plurmovie

08-09-2010, 09:03 AM

Then leave it alone.

thats a good way to be proactive. Look home boy, they are going to attempt to rape you of your first amendment rights. Are you really just going to sit there and tittle your thumbs?

alexander

08-09-2010, 09:08 AM

thats a good way to be proactive. Look home boy, they are going to attempt to rape you of your first amendment rights. Are you really just going to sit there a tittle your thumbs?

Dude, start a new thread then about it....homeboy.

"Proactive."

Just beacuse you found a few articles/youtube videos really doesn't mean a thing.
If you want to be involved in such an arguement, start your own thread about it, but talking about it here just looks silly.

Soleil

08-09-2010, 09:28 AM

thats a good way to be proactive. Look home boy, they are going to attempt to rape you of your first amendment rights. Are you really just going to sit there and tittle your thumbs?

Most of us on the board are dinosaurs baby. We've been around this block time and time again.

Its the same as it ever was.

alexander

08-09-2010, 10:02 AM

TOTALLY.
It comes and goes...with every/any self-expressive culture.

Digga

08-09-2010, 10:13 AM

Justin Ryan would be my running mate, but I'm scheduled to head out on the Mothership when it returns that year.

best team, ever. you'd have my vote.

alexander

08-09-2010, 10:18 AM

EXCELLENT.
:pray2:

alexander

08-09-2010, 10:21 AM

I love to tittle!

fixt!

Brandon

08-09-2010, 11:40 AM

thats a good way to be proactive. Look home boy, they are going to attempt to rape you of your first amendment rights. Are you really just going to sit there and tittle your thumbs?
lolz @ the silly n00b. Exactly how is a shitty event trouncing on your 1st Amendment rights?

brandon bass

08-09-2010, 12:01 PM

This group has over 6 million dollars of tax payer money for layers and lobbyists.

that's not that much really. don't get me wrong it may seem like it is but really it doesn't get much done politically. it may AID in getting someone elected or something but it isn't going to change the course of the legal system or any major laws. this shit was happening long before raves and plur and stuff

brandon bass

08-09-2010, 12:15 PM

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/100218964.html
click video

more fallout to fallow.... stay tuned!!!!

that was actually a pretty fair news report lol. even the cop was really cool stating that you only have a few people breaking the law out of everyone.

back in the day the old 20/20 reports etc.. made everyone out to be drug addicts attending drug parties to buy drugs lol. they used to search gear and speaker boxes for drugs and all kinds of over the top shit

plurmovie

08-09-2010, 12:34 PM

fixt!

You don't have my vote until you tell me what kind of soundboard and preamps you use. Impedance too.

plurmovie

08-09-2010, 12:41 PM

that's not that much really. don't get me wrong it may seem like it is but really it doesn't get much done politically. it may AID in getting someone elected or something but it isn't going to change the course of the legal system or any major laws. this shit was happening long before raves and plur and stuff

your 100 percent right. fuckers are trying to get elected and using it as p.r. Still doesn't mean you shouldn't band together with your thinking caps on and make some good p.r. for the scene.

Erik Mitchell

08-09-2010, 12:49 PM

Why the hate on paintball? I'm going on Thursday :(

alexander

08-09-2010, 01:06 PM

You don't have my vote until you tell me what kind of soundboard and preamps you use. Impedance too.

Vote?

alexander

08-09-2010, 01:15 PM

You don't have my vote until you tell me what kind of soundboard and preamps you use. Impedance too.

Before Chach gets on here and starts hittin' hard with his part of the company, being my audio dude and all, I just wanna start by saying we run a Turbosound Aspect 880 system powered by Turbo amps manufactured by MC2...nothing mobile like it, especially for EDM anywhere within 1K miles.

Ya wanna get techy?

A. Get into it with him, I have far greater things to work on.

B. Again, start your own thread in the GD forum with whatever you'd like to state, and deal with the responses accordingly.

I'd also like to add how correct Brandon is....$6 mil ain't shit in the political realm for issues such as this, privately funded or not...someone who wants to shut down CO MMJ facilities sure as shit won't be able to do it due to EDM gigs explicitly...that's just plain ridiculous.

Even more especially due to CALI laws and issues do not directly crossover to Colorado...PERIOD.

Brandon

08-09-2010, 04:21 PM

... I still haven't heard a retort as to how our 1st Amendment rights are being trounced by this.

nygaard

08-09-2010, 04:50 PM

Why the hate on paintball? I'm going on Thursday :(

yeah, wtf! I went this sat for the first time in probably 10 years and had a blast!

Alert

08-09-2010, 05:15 PM

... I still haven't heard a retort as to how our 1st Amendment rights are being trounced by this.

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression (http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#exp).
(http://www.usconstitution.net/constamrat.html#BoR)
Ratified (http://www.usconstitution.net/constamrat.html#BoR) 12/15/1791

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Freedom of assembly is the only part I can see that may relate to parties.

IMO, Any proposed legislation would have to outlaw freedom of assembly in order for it to be deemed unconstitutional.

JstnRyan

08-09-2010, 05:52 PM

Last time I checked they have shutdown all but a few events in LA after EDC.

This is the fundamental problem with both your arguments, as well as the "drug war" in general. You (and the legislators and enforcement officers behind the drug war) are somehow equating a musical subculture with drug manufacture, distribution, and use.

It's due to a fundamental flaw in the thought process of Western culture. In western society (namely the United States) we think that treating the symptoms will solve the cause. Direct example: "Let's shutdown raves, and nobody will do ecstasy." Any level-headed person can deduce that this statement is entirely untrue.

There are mirrored issues when we look at things like healthcare in this country. When you have a cold, what do you do? You head to the store for some Vick's NyQuil to treat your symptoms, instead of taking antibiotics (or even other things like changing your diet, washing your fucking hands...) to kill the bacteria or virus which is probably causing your cold. These flawed (IMO) thought processes are simply inherent in the way us Yanks have been trained to think.

So now we have a bunch of law enforcement agencies and policy makers thinking that an increased presence in certain areas (for example, the "rave" subculture) will solve their drug problems, regardless of where the cause of the problem actually comes from.

This society as a whole doesn't seem to want to admit to the fact that people are going to do drugs whether they are legal or not, so instead we run around making a big show of drug busts, screaming "look at us, we're solving the problem!" When in reality, nothing much has been accomplished throughout the entire 40 years of the "War on Drugs."

Instead, we should be spending those millions, nay BILLIONS of dollars on education, both drug education, and traditional education. The more knowledge the individuals in our society possess, the more we can be assured that those individuals are going to make an informed decision about their own welfare, as well as society's welfare, when it comes to using illicit substances.

In my own perfect world, I believe that just like your right to free speech, belief, etcetera, you also have the right affect your own life however you choose, so long as it does not directly adversely affect someone else's livelihood.

Justin Ryan would be my running mate, but I'm scheduled to head out on the Mothership when it returns that year.

:lol: Save some of the punch for me!

Alert

08-09-2010, 06:01 PM

:yo::yo::yo::yo:

:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

plurmovie

08-09-2010, 06:39 PM

This is the fundamental problem with both your arguments, as well as the "drug war" in general. You (and the legislators and enforcement officers behind the drug war) are somehow equating a musical subculture with drug manufacture, distribution, and use.

It's due to a fundamental flaw in the thought process of Western culture. In western society (namely the United States) we think that treating the symptoms will solve the cause. Direct example: "Let's shutdown raves, and nobody will do ecstasy." Any level-headed person can deduce that this statement is entirely untrue.

There are mirrored issues when we look at things like healthcare in this country. When you have a cold, what do you do? You head to the store for some Vick's NyQuil to treat your symptoms, instead of taking antibiotics (or even other things like changing your diet, washing your fucking hands...) to kill the bacteria or virus which is probably causing your cold. These flawed (IMO) thought processes are simply inherent in the way us Yanks have been trained to think.

So now we have a bunch of law enforcement agencies and policy makers thinking that an increased presence in certain areas (for example, the "rave" subculture) will solve their drug problems, regardless of where the cause of the problem actually comes from.

This society as a whole doesn't seem to want to admit to the fact that people are going to do drugs whether they are legal or not, so instead we run around making a big show of drug busts, screaming "look at us, we're solving the problem!" When in reality, nothing much has been accomplished throughout the entire 40 years of the "War on Drugs."

Instead, we should be spending those millions, nay BILLIONS of dollars on education, both drug education, and traditional education. The more knowledge the individuals in our society possess, the more we can be assured that those individuals are going to make an informed decision about their own welfare, as well as society's welfare, when it comes to using illicit substances.

In my own perfect world, I believe that just like your right to free speech, belief, etcetera, you also have the right affect your own life however you choose, so long as it does not directly adversely affect someone else's livelihood.

:lol: Save some of the punch for me!

You don't know me at all. That girl who basically died in my hands was a victim of the war on drugs. Why can't we have it like Portugal? Or at least more harm reduction oriented like Israel and holland? Now is the time to stand up and fight for what's right. TGAO, ETD Pop and EDC made national headlines making raves a national issue. What we have here is a culture war.

JstnRyan

08-09-2010, 07:18 PM

You don't know me at all. That girl who basically died in my hands was a victim of the war on drugs. Why can't we have it like Portugal? Or at least more harm reduction oriented like Israel and holland? Now is the time to stand up and fight for what's right. TGAO, ETD Pop and EDC made national headlines making raves a national issue. What we have here is a culture war.

First, let's get something straight. I'm making the assumption that snakeboarder = plurmovie. Am I correct?

Second, I'll give you the benefit of doubt, ignore all the silly things you've posted in the past, and assume that you have something of value to convey to us (the users on this board, as well as possibly a wider audience).

Now, in order to convey that message, you're going to have to start making some sense, and at the very least, provide some empirical evidence to back up your claims. Let's make some baby steps, and start off by trying to make some sense.

1. Who is this girl you speak of? I mentioned the young lady who overdosed on water, and as far as I know, that's the only girl to be mentioned in this conversation thus far. Did you mean her, and if so are you claiming she "died in your arms?" How was she, or some other person you refer to, a victim of the War on Drugs?

2. You mentioned Portugal, Israel, and Holland. You're going to have have to be specific about what you like about these countries, or the only retort I'm going to give is "Why don't you just relocate to Portugal, Israel, or Holland?"

3. It's always the time to stand up and fight for what's right. That is the basis of this country.

4. Raves were never a 'national issue.' The MINOR negative affects of drug use at raves is hardly a pressing issue when compared to more serious issues, like heroin or alcohol abuse, unemployment, the economy, the environment. Just because a few (very large) parties made some headlines in what can be possibly be considered 'national publications' (Internet notwithstanding), doesn't mean this is something that all America is concerned about.

5. It's always been a culture war. Everything is. It's all "us versus them" no matter how you look at any conflict. The matter is only made worse when talking about the "rave scene" because of it's very specific demographic. There's no doubting that the attendees to these typical large raves are in the approximately 15 - 30 age group. Whenever you amass a group of "young people" there is always going to be an air of 'the (inexperienced) youth against the (educated) adults.' So no matter how "old" and established our culture gets, we're always going to be fighting that battle against the stigma of being young and foolish.

Please see that I'm temporarily retracting my "let's ban this fucker" stance against you, and providing you a chance to convey your message. However, unless you wise up and start providing some substance to your thin banter, your words are simply going to fall back onto more and more deaf ears.

Despite our harsh outward demeanor, sometimes lackluster grammar and spelling, and seemingly juvenile reasons for associating with each other ("rave culture" for example), there are a lot of very intelligent people here. You're not going to sway anybody's conscious by simply posting news articles and YouTube videos.

cybr

08-09-2010, 07:44 PM

Fred still hasn't stated why the venue was a hazard...

not sure where that came from.

Chachi

08-09-2010, 08:56 PM

You don't have my vote until you tell me what kind of soundboard and preamps you use. Impedance too. Who are you srsly? What are you gonna gain if i answer this question? You already gained cool points for knowing of the word "Impedance", but for some strange reason i feel you may not know what it it means or why it is ipmortant (or in this case not). Also, preamps (what you probably think of them as) are generally used in home hi-fi systems, and in recording. There are, however, mic preamps built into some or all individual channel on a mixing board. We prefer not to use a board when hired for a dj oriented gig because the djm 800 puts out a nice clean balanced line level signal when not driven past +7db on the channels or master out. A board when not needed is just another piece of equipment to add noise to the signal chain. Maby you shoulda asked this silly question in the tech forum. Back on topic, the show was a great time for being the first of an annual, and we were glad to be part of it.

p.s. if youd like to use this post in your plur movie, feel free too. im sure all the people who watch are dieing to know "what kind of Impedance" Paradigm has. lol

Brandon

08-10-2010, 09:38 AM

FunkyFresh

08-10-2010, 11:57 AM

Fred still hasn't stated why the venue was a hazard...

not sure where that came from.

Since the show is over, I feel it's ok to express myself. Had I put anything up before the production, it would've seemed like sour grapes. Our company, our supporters, nor myself EVER engaged in promoting against this show. We just simply didn't support it. Here's why.

First of a couple of caveats: Most of this is inside/promoters bs and I'm sure I'll nod off writing it, because I'm just so over it. But as you will see, it's been going on since February and we've been through a lot. Most importantly, this is NOT about one particular show or one particular promoter. As far as I'm concerned & what follows is about one thing. That is the "scene" here in Colorado Springs.

Everyone knows that since the days of the City Aud, CS really dropped in it's presence in the realm of EDM. Some promoters have tried to host events with limited success. Part of this is due to the close mindedness of our city & civic leaders. My company, along with the help of many people, have tried to make headway in this area. I think we have been successful, up to this point.

I've personally have been trying to build the scene here in the Springs for 3 years now. 27 shows, 3 diff weeklies & I promote & support shows for Insomniac, Triads, Beta, Reload & AEG. I've made A LOT of progress in getting the support of the Police, Sheriff and business owners comfortable with our music scene again.

The Phil Long is one of them. I found them, did the 1st show, offered it to Ha when he needed a place before me and brokered a total of 4 shows there (not Solarfest). It's our venue. When LF inquired about this date, we had it reserved. We allowed them to have that date. We had it on hold, as well as on the promoters calender. We gave up the date, partially because we support companies doing shows here (in the Springs).

Building the "scene" down here isn't just about our shows, but anyone willing to bring a quality event to the Springs. Hence, why we helped other promoters do shows here. I personally reached out to Pureform on at least 3 occasions offering my help with their event. Not a call back. Could've saved thousands of dollars for them, but that's their call. Pretty much since the beginning, it's been a IDGAF attitude towards myself, our city and many of the local performers of this show.

However, we were not prepared for the Hate Fest that was to follow. See, DJ Reza (Go Ventures) has haters. I mean, big city (L.A.) motivated haters. First, the trolling started. People on here, Ravelinks, chatboards, etc. started posting things like "The Love Fest Pill Guide" and talking about a death at Monster Massive in 2007. Just crappy stuff, most of it pretty irrelevant, imo.

Then there were the letters. Someone had written letters to our city and civic leaders (including the Mayor's office & Police department) telling everyone to Be ready for the great Pill & Rave invasion that was coming to CoSprings on Aug 7th.

The city demanded a meeting with the promoters to decide if they would allow them to have the show here. After meeting with them, they were required to hire $5K in off duty police officers for their event. This is highly unusual. I work with the police/sheriff's office for all my shows. We had a great relationship with them. Sqt. Spanswick offered a noise variance in 24 hours for Bigg Topp, normally a 30 day wait.

Unfortunately, this was happening when I was trying to lock down my venue for Bigg Topp. Suddenly, no one wanted to host our show. These were places that had begged me to throw something with them. Anyone that checked with the Police were suddenly being told they would be wise to not host a "Rave".

Finally after quite a few turn downs, I went back to Phil Long (PLEC) to host our show. They said of course we'll help you. We appreciate everything you've done for us ($$$). "However, you also taught us that the promoters should work together, so we want to make sure it's ok w/ them (Love Fest). I said this, "Tell them I am offering my FULL SUPPORT. I will get behind their show, promote and influence the Springs to attend. Also, I will offer to have a booth, at my show, that they can have banners, flyers & SELL TICKETS to their show".

IDGAF. Actually, the quote was "No offence Fred, we don't need your help." I had conversations with them at Global and they wouldn't budge. I said it was kind of ironic since they wouldn't have that venue if it wasn't for me & a lot of hard work. I told them I would let people know and on paper, they look like assh*les.

The next day I got a call from a representative at PLEC & they said, "I heard you were trying to come back here. You know about the ATF investigation, right?" NO, wtf? "Oh yeah, some kid called here everyday for weeks making threats and saying he will bomb the place if you have Love Fest here.

Hence, the serious safety concerns. Do I think someone is going to bomb the place? no. Quite a bit of crazy for one show though. Who knew what the hell was going to happen?

Well, what did happen was the "off duty police officers" were mostly "undercover police officers". The lot was patrolled and the inside was covered as well. With not that many attendees in such a large venue, it was easy to see/smell someone lighting up, drinking, etc. and BAM, you were nabbed. It was virtually one big trap everyone was lead into.

22 arrests is significant, but really nothing new. Nobody died; nobody was rushed to the hospital. Is that all you've got?

Yeah, that's a big deal. In the history of my company, with over 30,000 guests, not one arrest. Not one. There was no local support for this show. The attendees were mostly from Denver. The attendees at our show (approx the same as at LF), were mostly from here. We care about our guests and do everything we can to ensure a great time for them. I'd like to think it's a great vibe we have.

Now we have the news clamoring about raves again. You have a venue that will probably never host a dance show again. You have great local talent, who you used for their name and never gave a care about. You advertised one stage with 16 DJs "+ more" in 8 hours? And it's always, We're going to change the way you look at dance events. Please.

Love Fest, you took a sh*t on Colorado Springs. You can leave now and never have to deal with our town again. Meanwhile, you've set us back a decade with your careless behavior. You're not Insomniac. You're not EDC. You're not welcome in our town again.

I don't want to get dragged into tit for tat. I don't plan on really saying anything more about this. You talked mad sh*t about me the night of your show, when maybe you should have tried to do things the right way. You said you didn't need my help. You acted like you didn't need the help of any CO promoter, that's why you didn't have it. Still feel that way?

Digga

08-10-2010, 12:17 PM

Ya know, Fred. It really makes me mad that all the money you and SOB have raised for local Colorado Springs Schools over the years is kind of an 'all for nothing' now. Granted, the money went to a wonderful and needy cause, but I'm sure you were using your efforts to show you're willing to work with, not against, local officials and sponser worthwhile causes in the Springs.

I'm almost certain that the person trolling message boards (SW included) was the same person authoring letters to local CS Officials (he sent copies to my personal email account)... presenting himself/herself as a concerned parent, etc. Blows my mind that one side can be such a child and the side of the local officials can't be bright enought to see past the bullshit after all the hard work you've done alone.

Weaksauce.

maki

08-10-2010, 12:24 PM

What? Pureform do something wrong? No way, not here. lol.

Colorado Springs = Dead again. , bummer.

w00dr0w

08-10-2010, 12:26 PM

Wow Fred, I'm speechless after reading that man. I had no idea any of that shit had went down. Not like I really would though. I agree with Digga. We all know you've busted your ass for years only to have a giant dump taken on all of your hard work. :(

Southpaw

08-10-2010, 12:40 PM

What's the situation here? Why is there so much controversy? So a party went on and some people got in trouble...this happens with EVERY GENRE OF MUSIC AT JUST ABOUT EVERY SHOW EVER.

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well fuckin put alex!

Alert

08-10-2010, 01:34 PM

the great Pill & Rave invasion

Rave Invasion would be an awesome name for a party.

:thumb:

People who waste their energy on hate could utilize that same momentum to accomplish something worthwhile.

Same energy, different focus.

Erik Mitchell

08-10-2010, 02:31 PM

Springs FTL

:(

DjGhettoSteve

08-10-2010, 05:31 PM

Sounds like the good old CS cycle of working to make friends with civic leaders and business owners and then having outsiders come in and disregard all that hard work.